How To Register Online For The Bella Vista Poa

05-13-2020, 08:47 PM

I'm not trying to start arguments hither. Just trying to go opinions on what you dearest or hate nigh Bella Vista Arkansas.

I'll listing my experiences and opinions in a beloved/detest order: (gonna be a rather long mail..)

My wife and I own 3 houses in Bella Vista. One is beingness sold (her old house, we recently married), one we are living in now , and another one we merely bought to remodel and motility into in a few months.

What we love:

- The hills and valleys.
- The trees, creeks and springs
- The wooded common areas surrounding most all the houses. Gives some sense of privacy, and doesn't experience similar you are in a huge subdivision
- Home prices: Fifty-fifty though rising, are lower than Bentonville and most other surrounding areas
- The lakes (even though we don't employ them much)
- The walking trails
- Golf, we similar the idea, but haven't golfed in years. Hope to again one twenty-four hour period.
- Overall, BV feels like we are on vacation all the time, at a vacation home.
- Very convenient to shopping and restaurants, but far enough away as to not be in urban sprawl.

What we hate (don't like, and frustrations). The dislikes will exist a longer mail service b/c each have a story and need explaining, merely the likes Do outweigh the dislikes, or we wouldn't exist living here.

- Bureaucracy between all the Bella Vista decision-making authorities (Urban center, POA, ACC and Cooper). Sometimes it is frustrating to become things done b/c you are sent around in circles. Ane time I looked into purchasing the vacant lot adjacent to me. The possessor was willing to sell. I wanted to maybe reroute my driveway through this lot to requite actress parking. Before making the purchase I needed to observe out if there were any restrictions. I started at the POA office. POA sent me to the ACC function. ACC office sent me back to POA office. POA office sent me to the BV route department. BV road department sent me back to the POA. POA sent me dorsum to the ACC. The ACC sent me to Cooper. Cooper told me they have a 7 foot easement through all property lines and I would have to file paperwork to obtain an "easement relief" in club to put a paved driveway over "their" easement. They wanted me to pay a fee ($200 I think) for the process, just said they could not guarantee I would be approved and would lose the processing fee, approved or not. They said they would consider drainage issues and a number of factors in their determination. I asked if I could become someone to merely come up out and await at the properties to see if I had a adventure for approval. But that was not an option. I decided not to purchase the lot and pursue the extra driveway. Maybe I will have the energy in the time to come to get around the circle once more. I have a few more examples of the Bureaucracy, some pretty funny. Just this post is getting also long. Perhaps afterward.

- RVs, Boats etc. must be hidden (completely out of sight): Come on! Most POA'southward require you to park your RV or boat in the back yard, beyond the corner of the firm, I get that. But POA rules (or mayhap ACC rules) in Bella Vista require the RV or boat to be completely Subconscious from sight. And so to get around the requirement, many people put up large ugly 8-foot fences or an ugly privacy screen of some sorts. Many times the solution ends upwards looking worse than the RV or gunkhole. Take a drive effectually BV one weekend and look at all the solutions people have come up with, some are laughable. I don't want folks to have dilapidated junk in their yards, only come on.. it is not unsightly for a family RV or pontoon boat to be parked in the back yard of a firm. Now granted not many folks in BV have back yards suitable to park an RV or boat, but it should be there choice to do so if they are able.
Currently at the business firm we are remodeling, I accept (had) an enclosed trailer sitting in the driveway, on and off for a couple weeks, using information technology to haul off carpet, old cabinets, etc. I received a letter from the ACC. Enclosed in the alphabetic character was a picture of my trailer with a warning to move information technology, explaining to me it was non immune to be parked in the driveway over 7-days. Pardon me ACC for attempting to remodel my house, adding value to BV and the community. I now have a golf cart trailer sitting out in the driveway and using it to haul off the construction cloth. I let it get full, haul it off and and then bring it back. So now instead of a very dainty enclosed trailer sitting out in the driveway, hiding the structure debris, I have a small open trailer sitting total of debris, exposed to anybody. From what I read, the POA (or ACC?) allows golf cart trailers to exist in the driveway or anywhere in the yard. But now I'm waiting for any i of the controlling authorities (POA, ACC, Urban center, COOPER, or ?) to ship me a alphabetic character telling me I'm not allowed to have annihilation 'inside' said golf game cart trailer. I'm certain information technology'south coming.

- What's up with BV having a 24" (inch) "right of style" next to every street? Pregnant at the end of every driveway in BV, you are NOT allowed to use concrete! Y'all must use merely asphalt or gravel. I bought my house a few years ago and noticed the asphalt at the end of the driveway starting to break-up. A couple years later it was getting much worse. I called a physical guy out to set information technology. I plant out BV owns the last 24" of my driveway, and they volition not allow concrete there. I called BV (ran the circumvolve over again, POA, ACC, city Road dept, Cooper) and learned they accept the legal right of way, but they don't maintain information technology, and they do non fix it when information technology breaks up. The property owner must foot the neb to apply cobblestone (not concrete) to a section of 'their' driveway the POA patently owns. In further inquiry with the POA I was told BV reserves the right-of-ways for future utilities, such equally sewer lines. So then I inquired.. if the POA comes through and rips upwards my newly laid asphalt, will they put information technology back? No ane would give me a directly answer on that ane. Concluding year I paid $k to accept the end of my (or BVs) driveway dug out and re-laid in cobblestone. So if one solar day they decide to tear it up, evidently they can do it legally and not put it back. ALL modern day subdivisions and even older ones allow driveways to become all the manner to the road. And if for some reason they need to bring a sewer or water line downwards the edge of the road, they use a auto to tunnel under the driveway (much cheaper than tearing upwardly and replacing driveways, but I judge if they force the homeowners to prepare 'their' right of way, they can come out cheaper)

- Sewer arrangement: Horrible system. Sewer nerveless in waste drums, partially cached next to people's houses. A macerator pumps waste from the butt into small diameter lines, forcing the waste into public lines (also small diameter). The unabridged organization relies on ability and pumps to operate. My wife'south sometime firm (the i nosotros are selling) is on sewer. Information technology has gone through ii pumps and a cracked ground line all inside a two year period. Her neighbour has had issues with his pump also, and at one point having raw sewage bubbling up next to collection barrel. Nosotros also had raw sewage come up up when we had the broken line. Other people that I know and piece of work with take had issue afterward consequence with their sewer system here in BV. However despite all of the issues, I hear the POA is plowing ahead with expanding the sewer system. Why? It tin can't exist whatever more sanitary than septic systems. At to the lowest degree septic systems do not seem to be spilling raw sewage at the charge per unit I have seen with the sewer system. A properly designed septic organisation volition hardly ever give any issues. Does the POA make money from the sewer system? If and so, that would explain a lot. All new homes, and whatsoever home that changes ownership must connect to the sewer system in BV (if sewer is available at the road).

- Water arrangement: The POA controls the water in all of BV, the entire system! This should exist a urban center function. I remember the POA controls the water for 1 reason... to use every bit enforcement to ensure everyone pays POA dues. The POA states clearly the they will cutting your water off if you fail to make your POA payments. This should be illegal (and it might be). I'thou certain one day BV volition face a lawsuit over this type enforcement, information technology's just plain incorrect. I pay my POA dues by the year, then losing my water to lack of POA dues is not a business organisation to me, however if they will turn your water off for non paying your POA dues, and so tin (or will they) turn my water off b/c I refuse to move an RV from my yard? Or a trailer from my driveway? Or b/c I paint my house an unapproved colour? Utilize the wrong color shingles? Grass also tall? Where does information technology finish? The POA has NO correct using the power of water meters to enforce anything! (other than failure to pay the water bill). It's nonsense and again, it merely plainly wrong.
And while we are talking about the water... A couple years ago I went to the POA to pay my water nib. At that time I attempted to get my bill auto-drafted from my checking account. The POA rep told me I needed to put a blank check "on-file". I explained I do not accept checks (take non used them in years). I told them I knew my business relationship numbers and could just give it to them. They would not allow that, said it was their "policy" to have the blank bank check "on-file". I proceeded to talk to several people, who all told me the same matter. When, since the 1980's, does anyone require a "blank cheque" to be kept "on-file" for auto draft purposes! Heck, I can become online to pretty much any utility or website and enter my banking info to have auto typhoon set. (maybe they have changed this rule over the last couple of years, but I doubt it).

POA dues: Overall, I'm fine with them and the increase. Notwithstanding I exercise not like the fact that $2 of the increase is going to pay for the Trafalgar fire. Just, sense we do take to pay for it every bit part of the increment, then once it is paid for, that extra $2 should fall off and our dues reduced by the same amount. Currently, after the fire is paid for, the actress money goes in "reserves". I do not like the idea of "reserves" when in that location has been no real explanation of what that coin will one day exist used for. My fright is that it will brood further bureaucracy via new employees and even more than "enforcement".

Well... That's the finish of my rant for now. I have more I could discuss, but I'm close to
2000 words in this post, and if you are still reading, you are either very board, or very interested, or both.

05-14-2020, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vcvs View Post

I have more I could hash out, simply I'k shut to
2000 words in this post, and if you are however reading, you are either very board, or very interested, or both.

I myself was very bored......sitting here at piece of work in the middle of the dark (I'g a tertiary shifter), just fret not - I'm always on the lookout for an interesting have on anything Arkansas and found your mail not just interesting, simply informative. Yous should receive plenty of dialogue for your efforts.....there are a few Bella Vista regulars in here and many others who will as well offering opinions of substance.

05-14-2020, ten:14 AM

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Originally Posted by songinthewind7 View Post

BV is a beautiful place. We were there a few years ago to cheque information technology out for a possible move but ended up in Branson.
It seems your cons outweigh your pros. Have you thought of relocating somewhere else?

Branson is a beautiful area also. I love the Table Stone area too. My cons do non outweigh the pros. I stated that toward the beginning of the postal service. We honey Bella Vista. But at that place are some frustration points to consider as well, and zippo wrong with having a give-and-take about them.
Have we thought about relocating somewhere else? Of form non. As stated clearly in the post, we just bought another house here in BV to remodel and move into. We program to be hither for many years to come.

05-14-2020, ten:25 AM

Well as near of you lot know I am a true BV loyalist and could run the chamber all past myself. I besides institute the OPs post interesting but a piffling over dramatic and perhaps more negative than necessary.

As for the sewer organisation, that is almost funny as ii/3 or more than of u.s.a. are not fifty-fifty on sewers and those who are, I have never heard one of them mutter about it.

The requirements for RVs and boats being enclosed is true and yet, we tin drive anywhere in town and see them not totally enclosed and covered. Yes POA and the governing bodies take likewise much command.

The $2 of our increment going to the stump dump nightmare is a shame and yet, I sympathize why this is.

For the states the positives here way outweigh the negatives: peace and quiet are at the top of the listing:
most friendly people in the globe live here.
The mixture of rural and urban gives u.s.a. everything we could ask for.
There is much to exercise here, from but playing cards with a card group, to line-fishing groups, golf, water activities, volunteer work, hiking and walking on the wonderful trails, all kinds of classes offered. /only what is missing is
a few more restaurants: at present with Duffers shutting downward we even have fewer options. We need a coffee shop somewhere effectually boondocks center and something up in the highlands for starters.

Of course I could keep and on, but you get the idea.

05-14-2020, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted past nmnita View Post

As for the sewer system, that is almost funny as ii/3 or more of us are not even on sewers and those who are, I have never heard one of them mutter about information technology.

Really? The sewer organisation has been an issue with many folks here. In fact, the POA has had so many issues with the pumps, I hear they are starting to switch them out with another model (paid for by the home possessor). The sewer issues are well documented. I was lucky that the house we simply bought to remodel did not have sewer available at the route, and then we get to continue the septic tank. I say turn the sewer system over to the city, likewise as the h2o. Let the city focus on utilities and the POA focus on member services and benefits.

Sorry my post was over dramatic to you. Just I do not remember information technology was "more negative" than necessary. I but told true stories of my observations and experiences - some frustrating and some funny.

We love Bella Vista and happy we live here. I could have too written a much longer postal service describing the likes and pros, but trees, creeks, springs, lakes, etc. sort of speak for themselves.

05-14-2020, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted past vcvs View Post

Branson is a beautiful area as well. I dear the Table Rock area also. My cons do non outweigh the pros. I stated that toward the beginning of the post. We love Bella Vista. But there are some frustration points to consider as well, and zilch wrong with having a discussion well-nigh them.
Have we idea about relocating somewhere else? Of course not. Every bit stated clearly in the post, we but bought some other house here in BV to remodel and move into. We plan to exist here for many years to come.

It seems as I read your post that the cons outweigh the pros. Only considering you bought another firm doesn't hateful you have to be there for good. Selling is always an selection.
If you like BV, that'south dandy but your post to me says the cons are more the pros. That's why I said what I said.

05-14-2020, 12:36 PM

We love Bella Vista and happy we live here. I could have too written a much longer post describing the likes and pros, but copse, creeks, springs, lakes, etc. sort of speak for themselves. - by VCVS

I institute his pros and cons post very interesting. As we are planning to movement to Bella Vista it was good to read and good to know. It didn't deter me from leaving California, but it volition aid to move with eyes broad open. I promise he will post over again and I'yard waiting for more.

By the way, I could write a pros and cons mail virtually all the places I lived in the last 73 years and members would chew me upwards for mud slinging. Nothing wrong with that, I state my opinion, and y'all state your own. That is why I dearest Urban center Data.

05-14-2020, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted past mgforshort View Post

Nosotros love Bella Vista and happy we live here. I could take also written a much longer post describing the likes and pros, but copse, creeks, springs, lakes, etc. sort of speak for themselves. - by VCVS

I establish his pros and cons post very interesting. Every bit we are planning to motility to Bella Vista it was expert to read and practiced to know. It didn't deter me from leaving California, only it will assistance to move with eyes wide open. I hope he will post once more and I'm waiting for more.

By the way, I could write a pros and cons post about all the places I lived in the last 73 years and members would chew me up for mud slinging. Nothing wrong with that, I state my opinion, and you land your own. That is why I dearest Metropolis Data.

Good mail and yes,we could all write lists of pros and cons of all the places nosotros accept lived. No place is utopia and no place is Hell on earth. Or if in that location is one we haven't constitute information technology and nosotros accept lived all over the country.

When we decided to relocate and look for our forever habitation Metropolis Data was then much assist. It was our granddaughter that suggested we look here, but we had already considered AR, besides every bit a few other surrounding states. City information is a dandy place to go objective information as long as we all realize everyone has a different take on issues and places but similar they practise on nutrient, wear, etc.

05-14-2020, 01:xiii PM

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Originally Posted past vcvs View Post

Really? The sewer system has been an issue with many folks here. In fact, the POA has had so many bug with the pumps, I hear they are starting to switch them out with some other model (paid for by the abode owner). The sewer problems are well documented. I was lucky that the firm nosotros just bought to remodel did not have sewer available at the road, then we get to keep the septic tank. I say plow the sewer arrangement over to the city, as well as the h2o. Let the city focus on utilities and the POA focus on member services and benefits.

Deplorable my post was over dramatic to you. But I do not recall it was "more negative" than necessary. I but told truthful stories of my observations and experiences - some frustrating and some funny.

Nosotros love Bella Vista and happy we live here. I could have also written a much longer post describing the likes and pros, but trees, creeks, springs, lakes, etc. sort of speak for themselves.

Again, every bit I have often said earlier, we all have our own ideas and based on those I know with sewers and without it doesn't seem like there are many who have had problems. Now, I have to acknowledge, it isn't a topic that we sit down around during happy hour or subsequently church discussing, so I take no physical information. Evidently you do know more about the problems than I exercise. This is one of the reasons Urban center data exists, we tin hash out and debate topics all solar day and get different sides of each story based on personal experiences.

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